RudimentalDrummer
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I had my Sabian B8 Pro (they call it Crappy Cymbals) for 9 years, before I switch to Paiste Signature & Bosphorus. Truly I can't afford High-End Cymbal at that time, as I bought my 8pcs Yamaha Stage Custom together with the Cymbals from Yamaha at Suntec City. At that time - I was very ignorant about Cymbals...I only know 3 Brand Paiste, Zildjian & Sabian.....Hahahaha :lol: I asked the Saleman "Sabian Good?"..he say "Good & Cheap"..so I buy...and it's been with me for 9 years till I sold it for S$150.00 this year.
To me, I bought the B8 because of ignorance & $$$ not enough, only later on did I realise that Good Cymbals are really not cheap. A set of High-End Cymbals can buy an Entire Entry or Mid-Level-Drum-Kit. My Paiste (all new)cost me about S$5,000.00 (of which only one New Sig, Hi-Hat I bought 2nd hand at S$400.00 from a drummer this year - in superb condition). Why did I buy Paiste? - I was Influence by Anthony Fong and love it's sound from then on......and I don't buy them at one-go. I've to save up for months just to get one-piece of it as I have other commitment as a married man.
Today I feel happy, cause I have what I wanted.....but if someone were to ask me "Did I regreted spending this kind of $$$$ on Paiste"......I say "NO"..but "My Heart Pain Pain".
I remember the 1st time I tested Bosphorus Cymbals in which I asked myself - "Why did I spend so much on Paiste"...I did go ahead to bought a set of Bosphorus and I test it with my Signatures. I concluded that the Paiste Sig are better....but when I compare the prices...Bosphorus are indeed value for money...It's something like - I have to pay 3 times the price of Bosphorus to get 1 Signature...but Bros...truly - The Paiste Sig are not 3 times better than the Bosphorus....a little maybe.
PS: - My personal Opinion is - If I could find Cymbals that I like eg Paiste Signature & Zildjian Constantinople in the Resale Market (2nd-hand) and is in good condition - This will be my priority - I'll buy them - but such good buy are hard & rare to find. WHY?.......because we all knows - Cymbals if well taken care of can last for decades & decades....and the fact that 'Cymbals Prices are increasing every year - unlike a Drum kit - - Cymbal models remain for a long time eg. Paiste Signature, Zildjian K, A or Con......Also the depreciation value (so-call resale value) of Cymbals are unlike Drum Kit - they have good resale value.......So we will not end-up losing alot if we intend to resell them at a later stage. I also feel that most people will sell & change/upgrade their kit more often Cymbals on a general basis.
I use my Paiste Sig on my Gretsch Catalina Jazz Kit....this kit is less than 1K (Brand New), but my Cymbals cost many times more....The same with my Rythmn Traveller (which I got second hand- cheap also lah), but my Paiste Rude Cymbals cost so much higher than the Kit.....(This is just an example here) - I did asked myself - If my Drum-Kit is not so expensive - What the hell am I using more expensive cymbals on it ( I think alot of people will likewise think this way - so they see no need to buy expensive cymbal for their kit - which is rational & justifiable too in this sense)...
All in all, I can only say - It's really a personal preference (especially brands)...and Drummers like us goes through certain evolution stage in upgrading our Kits & cymbals as we know more & are able to afford later-on.
Whatever Cymbal or Kit we own, we should feel good & proud about it - at least we can drum happily. There are many who do not have a Kit/Cymbals because family members do not agree to them playing drums at home...
Let's be happy with what we have now - As Long As We Can Drum..
Wah Law-eh, paiseh paiseh....see beh Loh-soh ah me here...Cheers Bros ! :lol:
To me, I bought the B8 because of ignorance & $$$ not enough, only later on did I realise that Good Cymbals are really not cheap. A set of High-End Cymbals can buy an Entire Entry or Mid-Level-Drum-Kit. My Paiste (all new)cost me about S$5,000.00 (of which only one New Sig, Hi-Hat I bought 2nd hand at S$400.00 from a drummer this year - in superb condition). Why did I buy Paiste? - I was Influence by Anthony Fong and love it's sound from then on......and I don't buy them at one-go. I've to save up for months just to get one-piece of it as I have other commitment as a married man.
Today I feel happy, cause I have what I wanted.....but if someone were to ask me "Did I regreted spending this kind of $$$$ on Paiste"......I say "NO"..but "My Heart Pain Pain".
I remember the 1st time I tested Bosphorus Cymbals in which I asked myself - "Why did I spend so much on Paiste"...I did go ahead to bought a set of Bosphorus and I test it with my Signatures. I concluded that the Paiste Sig are better....but when I compare the prices...Bosphorus are indeed value for money...It's something like - I have to pay 3 times the price of Bosphorus to get 1 Signature...but Bros...truly - The Paiste Sig are not 3 times better than the Bosphorus....a little maybe.
PS: - My personal Opinion is - If I could find Cymbals that I like eg Paiste Signature & Zildjian Constantinople in the Resale Market (2nd-hand) and is in good condition - This will be my priority - I'll buy them - but such good buy are hard & rare to find. WHY?.......because we all knows - Cymbals if well taken care of can last for decades & decades....and the fact that 'Cymbals Prices are increasing every year - unlike a Drum kit - - Cymbal models remain for a long time eg. Paiste Signature, Zildjian K, A or Con......Also the depreciation value (so-call resale value) of Cymbals are unlike Drum Kit - they have good resale value.......So we will not end-up losing alot if we intend to resell them at a later stage. I also feel that most people will sell & change/upgrade their kit more often Cymbals on a general basis.
I use my Paiste Sig on my Gretsch Catalina Jazz Kit....this kit is less than 1K (Brand New), but my Cymbals cost many times more....The same with my Rythmn Traveller (which I got second hand- cheap also lah), but my Paiste Rude Cymbals cost so much higher than the Kit.....(This is just an example here) - I did asked myself - If my Drum-Kit is not so expensive - What the hell am I using more expensive cymbals on it ( I think alot of people will likewise think this way - so they see no need to buy expensive cymbal for their kit - which is rational & justifiable too in this sense)...
All in all, I can only say - It's really a personal preference (especially brands)...and Drummers like us goes through certain evolution stage in upgrading our Kits & cymbals as we know more & are able to afford later-on.
Whatever Cymbal or Kit we own, we should feel good & proud about it - at least we can drum happily. There are many who do not have a Kit/Cymbals because family members do not agree to them playing drums at home...
Let's be happy with what we have now - As Long As We Can Drum..
Wah Law-eh, paiseh paiseh....see beh Loh-soh ah me here...Cheers Bros ! :lol:
