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    Cymbal Guide- develop the right mentality(updated)

    This guide is to help everyone to explore the world of cymbals and help expand their choices and also to develop the right mentality.

    [1] The 3 major cymbal producers
    this section is for beginners or perhaps those who only heard of these 3 brands.The reason why these 3 companies are so famous and preferred to is due to the fact that they are large companies with the capacity to endorse many famous drummers who are idols of many people and therefore,these fans of the famous drummers would naturally be influenced about getting their idol's cymbals and hence get "stereotyped" into the "zildjian/paiste/sabian is the best!anything else will lose out to it" kind of mentality.i would like to let everyone know that even though that these 3 brands are very reputable for making "good" cymbals,there are other companies out there which also produce very unique and wonderful cymbals,do not be constrained to these 3 brands only when buying cymbals.

    [2] Branding is not everything , sound IS
    Most people also tend to be brand conscious,the minute they hear of an unfamiliar brand of cymbals,they do not even put them into consideration, without even hearing them.I would like to emphasize that branding does not say a single thing about the sound,but actually hearing the cymbals for yourself and letting your ears do the judging of the sound produced is everything.just because the cymbal has the brand of bosphorus or istanbul etc. doesn't mean their cymbals sound incomparable to zildjian/sabians/paiste cymbals,they may have different characters but never incomparable.

    [3] "Good" sounding cymbals
    this term is very very subjective,there will never be a definition for good or best sounding cymbals.Each cymbal may sound brighter,darker,washy,crisp etc. and different people may like a certain cymbal while others might not.so next time if you are asking for some cymbals,
    dont ask "hey,do these cymbals sound good?"
    instead,you should ask : "what are the characteristics of these cymbals?and where can i find the sound sample"

    [4] "Should i sell my current cymbals to get money to buy the next set?"

    No.you should try your very best not to sell your cymbals just to get money to buy the next one unless you truly hate what you are hearing.

    First reason,if you sell your current cymbals,you will be selling it lesser than what you bought it for,in the long run,you will be losing a lot of money by buying and selling cymbals after using each of them.

    Second reason,each piece of cymbal is an art,how its being crafted,how it sounds.Having a larger arsenal of cymbals would also mean that you will have a larger variety of sounds to play with rather than being confined to a single set that you might also want to change in the near future.


    List of Cymbals
    this list of cymbals listed by me is to let drummers in our community know about the less popular cymbal companies and a chance to explore more into them.

    Big Three

    American - Zildjian
    Zildjian.com - EN-US - Homepage
    Canadian - Sabian
    Sabian Home Page
    Swiss - Paiste
    Paiste Cymbals: Cymbals, Sounds, Drums and Gongs

    Turkish

    Istanbul Mehmet
    Istanbul Cymbals Mehmet Original Handmade Cymbals From Turkey Traditional Cymbals
    CymbalsOnly.com current Istanbul Mehmet inventory

    Istanbul Agop
    ISTANBUL CYMBALS
    CymbalsOnly.com current Istanbul AGOP Inventory

    Bosphorus
    Bosphorus
    CymbalsOnly.com current Bosphorus inventory

    Amedia
    Amedia

    Turkish
    Turkish Cymbals

    Masterwork
    Masterworkcymbal

    Anatolian
    ::ANATOLIAN CYMBALS::

    GrandMaster
    Harmony Central®: Grand Master Cymbal Models

    TRX (Turkish OEM, US brand)
    Welcome to TRX Cymbals ONLINE

    Cadeson (Turkish OEM, Taiwanese brand)
    Drums, Xylophones, Saxophones, Trombone, Trumpets, Clarinets, Flutes, Baritone, Tuba, Mellophone, Violins, Double Bass, Cello, Dram Sticks, Instrument Bags & Boxes-Cadeson Musical Co., Ltd.

    Italian

    UFIP
    PPC Music GmbH > UFIP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErtOXTboxE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2DqW...elated&search=
    (audio samples)

    German

    Meinl
    MEINL CYMBALS... INSPIRE: Home
    Note: Byzance series made in Turkey, finished in Germany

    Chinese

    Wuhan
    www.wuhancymbals.com

    Saluda (Chinese OEM, finished in US factory)
    http://www.saludacymbals.com/c/sounds.php
    (audio samples)

    Dream (Chinese OEM, Canadian brand)
    http://www.mountainrhythm.com/
    Front Range Bronze, Dream Bliss, Contact, Bosphorus, Cymbals. Vintage Cymbals

    Stagg (Chinese OEM, Belgian brand)
    STAGG MUSIC | Home

    Brazil

    Orion
    http://www.orioncymbals.com.br/english/produtos.htm

    Harpy/Krest
    Krest Cymbals.com.br

    Japanese

    Koide
    KOIDE CYMBALS


    Local

    Trojan

    Independent Artisans
    These are the rare and few who work alone, creating cymbals from scratch with their bare hands, also modifying existing ones, personalized custom work.

    Italian
    Don Roberto / Spizzichinos
    Spizzichino Cymbals
    Film - FourDocs

    Swiss
    Michael Paiste / Swiss Custom Shop
    S.C.S. Swiss Customshop - Drums & Cymbals

    Belgian
    Johan VanDeSijpe
    Index of /cymbzdrumz

    Icelandic
    Steve Hubback
    Steve Hubback/Hubgong

    *compiled by weckl-x


    Edit: - added afew more details into the cymbal list
    - edited some terms in section 4
    - added weckl-x's cymbal list compilation
    Last edited by churnz; 24-02-08 at 12:47 AM.

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    Ur 'Istanbul' heading may be misleading to beginners. As it was, there's only 1, but after the breaking up, jus like the one tat lead to the founding of Sabian, tis break-up led to the formation of Istanbul Agop and Istanbul Mehmet. Wat u have listed is for the Istanbul Mehmet company, so its better to state it as such, rather than jus Istanbul. Anyway, cymbalsonly.com also has a link to Agop.

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    lol ok edited :P

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    Wah... I am impressed!!! 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by drum_hobbyist
    Wah... I am impressed!!! 8)
    haha,thank you for the compliment,i was merely putting down what i have learned from you in black and white so that others may also benefit for your wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by churnz
    [4] "Should i sell my current cymbals to get money to buy the next set?"

    No.you should never sell your cymbals just to get money to buy the next one unless you truly hate what you are hearing.
    Some thoughts about this...

    While this is true, but there are many factors why someone would sell his/her cymbals. Some people need to sell off stuff to fund new purchases. The ways of funding purchases differ for different individuals. By saying "you should never sell" is too strong a statement.

    Something less definite would be better.

    Just my 2 cents
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    Hmm.. well.. just fyi, some people actually consider Meinl in the Big Four now.. haha. nevermind

    Lemme add a couple, plus one suggestion, organize by country of origin.

    *think* I got most if not all of them right. Please feel free to edit.


    Big Three

    American - Zildjian
    http://www.zildjian.com/
    Canadian - Sabian
    http://www.sabian.com/
    Swiss - Paiste
    http://www.paiste.com

    Turkish

    Istanbul Mehmet
    http://www.istanbulmehmet.com/
    http://www.cymbalsonly.com/cymbals/mehmet/mehmet.htm

    Istanbul Agop
    http://www.istanbulcymbals.com/
    http://www.cymbalsonly.com/cymbals/agop/agop.htm

    Bosphorus
    http://www.bosphoruscymbals.com/
    http://www.cymbalsonly.com/index.htm

    Amedia
    http://www.amediacymbals.com/

    Turkish
    http://www.turkishcymbals.com/

    Masterwork
    http://www.masterworkcymbal.com/

    Anatolian
    http://www.anatoliancymbals.com/

    GrandMaster
    http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp...er/models.html

    TRX (Turkish OEM, US brand)
    http://www.trxcymbals.com/

    Cadeson (Turkish OEM, Taiwanese brand)
    http://www.cadesonmusic.com/17-cymbals.html

    Italian

    UFIP
    http://www.ufip.com/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErtOXTboxE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2DqW...elated&search=
    (audio samples)

    German

    Meinl
    http://www.meinlcymbals.com/cymbal_s...al_series.html
    Note: Byzance series made in Turkey, finished in Germany

    Chinese

    Wuhan
    http://www.wuhancymbals.com/

    Saluda (Chinese OEM, finished in US factory)
    http://www.saludacymbals.com/c/sounds.php
    (audio samples)

    Dream (Chinese OEM, Canadian brand)
    http://www.mountainrhythm.com/
    http://www.frontrangebronze.com/

    Stagg (Chinese OEM, Belgian brand)
    http://www.staggmusic.com/

    Brazil

    Orion
    http://www.orioncymbals.com.br/english/produtos.htm

    Harpy/Krest
    http://www.krestcymbals.com.br/

    Japanese

    Koide
    http://koidecymbal.com/factory/index.html


    Local

    Trojan

    Independent Artisans
    These are the rare and few who work alone, creating cymbals from scratch with their bare hands, also modifying existing ones, personalized custom work.

    Italian
    Don Roberto / Spizzichinos
    http://www.spizzichinocymbals.com/
    http://www.channel4.com/fourdocs/fil...l.jsp?id=8262#

    Swiss
    Michael Paiste / Swiss Custom Shop
    http://www.swiss-customshop.ch/

    Belgian
    Johan VanDeSijpe
    http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/

    Icelandic
    Steve Hubback
    http://hubgong.dse.nl/

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    Another excellent contribution... keep it up! :wink:

    By the way... Mehmet, Agop and Bosphorus have their own website...

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    Another one:

    Anatolian Cymbals

    http://www.anatoliancymbals.com/

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    now this should be made a sticky
    or at least kept at the top for people to view.

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